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	<title>Comments on: Oh boy.  Loonies are out of the bin&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Alain Saffel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alain Saffel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we should always be concerned about malicious attempts to screw with us, I&#039;m probably more concerned about complete negligence when it comes to our health.

I&#039;m sorry, but my trust in &quot;authority&quot; is about equal to my trust in organized crime. When you throw money into the mix, your health and public interest tend to fly out the window.

Money is the common thread that runs through all these things, which is probably why lead is still added to fuel (I&#039;m sure we can find alternatives). Remember when Canada banned MMT, or tried anyway?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylcyclopentadienyl_manganese_tricarbonyl

It had been banned in the US but Canada caved when the sleazebag Ethyl Corp threatened action under NAFTA. This toxic chemical is still in our gas and had been banned in the US, but is now in use. We don&#039;t really know what the long term effects are.

This is similar to the situation with BPA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A

It&#039;s been know since the 1930s that this is an endocrine disruptor, something that mimic human hormones. Yet, it&#039;s in widespread use in a huge variety of products. Again, we don&#039;t really know what the effects are of longterm exposure, or at least, the studies probably haven&#039;t been released. I find it hard to believe that nobody out there really knows what these chemicals do.

What we don&#039;t know is how they all intermingle within us. Wonder why cancer is so prevalent? Miscarriages? Heart disease? Autism?

So when people come up with these apparent conspiracy theories about chemtrails, etc, it&#039;s really not that far out of the realm of possibility. Who ever would&#039;ve thought the government would allow such harmful chemicals to come into contact with our food?

One of the basic tenets of investigative journalism: follow the money. Do that and you usually find the answers.

So would I be surprised to find out that our government did mass experiments on its people through chemtrails? Nope. That would actually be less insane that some of the things I&#039;ve heard about in the news lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we should always be concerned about malicious attempts to screw with us, I&#8217;m probably more concerned about complete negligence when it comes to our health.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but my trust in &#8220;authority&#8221; is about equal to my trust in organized crime. When you throw money into the mix, your health and public interest tend to fly out the window.</p>
<p>Money is the common thread that runs through all these things, which is probably why lead is still added to fuel (I&#8217;m sure we can find alternatives). Remember when Canada banned MMT, or tried anyway?<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylcyclopentadienyl_manganese_tricarbonyl" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylcyclopentadienyl_manganese_tricarbonyl</a></p>
<p>It had been banned in the US but Canada caved when the sleazebag Ethyl Corp threatened action under NAFTA. This toxic chemical is still in our gas and had been banned in the US, but is now in use. We don&#8217;t really know what the long term effects are.</p>
<p>This is similar to the situation with BPA.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s been know since the 1930s that this is an endocrine disruptor, something that mimic human hormones. Yet, it&#8217;s in widespread use in a huge variety of products. Again, we don&#8217;t really know what the effects are of longterm exposure, or at least, the studies probably haven&#8217;t been released. I find it hard to believe that nobody out there really knows what these chemicals do.</p>
<p>What we don&#8217;t know is how they all intermingle within us. Wonder why cancer is so prevalent? Miscarriages? Heart disease? Autism?</p>
<p>So when people come up with these apparent conspiracy theories about chemtrails, etc, it&#8217;s really not that far out of the realm of possibility. Who ever would&#8217;ve thought the government would allow such harmful chemicals to come into contact with our food?</p>
<p>One of the basic tenets of investigative journalism: follow the money. Do that and you usually find the answers.</p>
<p>So would I be surprised to find out that our government did mass experiments on its people through chemtrails? Nope. That would actually be less insane that some of the things I&#8217;ve heard about in the news lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Scratch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scratch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lead wouldn&#039;t be a surprise, as there is are a number of components in the fuel that are less than savoury.  My primary concern is the assertion by the &#039;chemtrails&#039; folks that these trails are &#039;malicious&#039; attempts by the &#039;man&#039; and contain toxins intended for the public...

See:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

THOSE are the hemp-wearin-granola-eating-conspiracy-theorizin-fbi-shot-jfk-promotin-man-didn&#039;t-walk-on-the-moon-cause-the-earth-is-flat types I&#039;M talking about...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lead wouldn&#8217;t be a surprise, as there is are a number of components in the fuel that are less than savoury.  My primary concern is the assertion by the &#8216;chemtrails&#8217; folks that these trails are &#8216;malicious&#8217; attempts by the &#8216;man&#8217; and contain toxins intended for the public&#8230;</p>
<p>See:  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory</a></p>
<p>THOSE are the hemp-wearin-granola-eating-conspiracy-theorizin-fbi-shot-jfk-promotin-man-didn&#8217;t-walk-on-the-moon-cause-the-earth-is-flat types I&#8217;M talking about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alain Saffel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alain Saffel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might want to dig into the subject a little more. I was recently quite surprised to learn that aviation fuel contains lead.

So, those chemtrails are more than just water vapour. They very likely contain lead.
http://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2008a/080505SwiftAviationFuel.html

It&#039;s not just hemp wearing granola eaters that are concerned about things like this. And we used to think that the products coming from China were safe... until we started digging into it a little more and realized they weren&#039;t.

If you do a search on Google for &quot;aviation fuel lead&quot; you will find a lot of material on the subject. Those heavy metals aren&#039;t just in the soil and water. They&#039;re floating down from the sky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to dig into the subject a little more. I was recently quite surprised to learn that aviation fuel contains lead.</p>
<p>So, those chemtrails are more than just water vapour. They very likely contain lead.<br />
<a href="http://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2008a/080505SwiftAviationFuel.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2008a/080505SwiftAviationFuel.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just hemp wearing granola eaters that are concerned about things like this. And we used to think that the products coming from China were safe&#8230; until we started digging into it a little more and realized they weren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>If you do a search on Google for &#8220;aviation fuel lead&#8221; you will find a lot of material on the subject. Those heavy metals aren&#8217;t just in the soil and water. They&#8217;re floating down from the sky.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chemtrails sounds more like a crazy urban myth than fact to me. 
Haha - Would this be a bad time to bring up what else pilots drop from planes?  I took a course with a bunchof pilots and they had all kinds of stories.  I&#039;m far more concerned (read: not concerned at all, but maybe a little grossed out.) about planes emptying their latrines over houses than seeing evidence of airplane exhaust and condensation in the sky.
If you&#039;ve ever heard of &quot;blue snow&quot; appearing on your rooftops, now you don&#039;t need to ask where it came from. &gt;.&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chemtrails sounds more like a crazy urban myth than fact to me.<br />
Haha &#8211; Would this be a bad time to bring up what else pilots drop from planes?  I took a course with a bunchof pilots and they had all kinds of stories.  I&#8217;m far more concerned (read: not concerned at all, but maybe a little grossed out.) about planes emptying their latrines over houses than seeing evidence of airplane exhaust and condensation in the sky.<br />
If you&#8217;ve ever heard of &#8220;blue snow&#8221; appearing on your rooftops, now you don&#8217;t need to ask where it came from. &gt;.&gt;</p>
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